Not on board. "Assault weapon" is a political term. "Assault weapon" in military terms is a firearm that has the ability to fire in a fully automatic manner.
These weapons are already banned in America. Hard stop. No further discussion needed.
Not about that, not about what the media call "high-capacity" magazines either.
A "standard" magazine for a "Modern Sporting Rifle" (which the anti's call an Assault weapon) is 30 rounds.
Any shooter who trains can replace a rifle magazine in approximately 2 seconds; this makes a discussion about magazine capacity limitations also a hard stop.
Both issues are simply false flags to scare/intimidate those who know nothing about the workings/operation of MSRs.
The goal is to gain a groundswell of support through fear mongering to the electorate.
There are NO needs of more gun laws; there is a need to arrest and prosecute to the fullest extent of the law all those who are found guilty of breaking same.
This discussion will never end. Once “they” ban all of those so called assault weapons, a school shooter will show up with a 6 shot double action smith & Wesson with a bundle of speed loaders and kill a bunch of kids. Now a 6 shooter will be on the ban list. This is why we have to fight.
I don't disagree. That's historically how that works for everything, not just this. But if we could get it to what's described above, you could pose all that right to them, and maybe get an answer for it.
Maybe…this person used a phuqing Keltec pistol caliber carbine! The cheapest “assault not-an-assault” weapon out there. And then shot thru the door to get in. Mental illness will never stop…
This isn’t just the “slippery slope” we’re talking about, this is pushing us off the 1,000 ft. cliff. I’d even say it’s by design. They want/need us unarmed but before that can really happen, they need us to capitulate and concede their talking points, as if they were both obviously valid, and in good faith. They’re neither of those things. You should know better than most, Glen… you can’t give an inch to commies or Marxists, or leftists, nor any other kind of nihilistic destructo-bots bc it’s all theatre. It’s an act, merely tactics to win the battle. They’re a lot like Islamists- nothing less than total domination or failing that, utter annihilation of their targets will do. And the puppet-masters have them dance/attack/react any way they need them to. So, no we don’t need more lists for them to place our arms or our names on to, for all the reasons they like to do that… we need to start pushing back and hard, on all the ground we’ve already lost. The 2nd Amendment is in practice the most important one, bc without it the others are all forfeit, sooner rather than later…
We already have universal background checks and lists
This recent perpetrator went through them ...so at one point was okay to own firearms.
There's so many lies being spun to get their way...it is all a game to the teflon dems.
I want to see what was in this alleged "manifesto" and who is backing it & aided this person?
Please understand this: schools are targeted specifically bc of kids bc they are not only precious lives, but most people on all sides love kids, want to protect kids...so they are the perfect pardon the pun, targets...my heart hurts for the grieving families and communities and for the kids who have to constantly worry if they're gonna be safe. Until armed security are in place, this won't stop no matter what category of weapon is banned. Glen, you had to see on Twit box the posts pushing violence towards people who oppose the agenda??? Who's going to protect them? Give an inch & they take 100 miles...
I saw sadly a mom who lost her child in Sandy Hook on an ad video on YouTube saying "an ar 15 killed my son" & I thought how sad that not only did she lose a child but that she's so easily duped to believe it was the "AR 15s fault!"
People are so stupidly caught up w buzzwords that the gvt, tv and media push....a 357 magnum could have been the gun used or a machete....banning objects isn't going to solve any of the current issues & the tranny that did the Nashville shooting had what many gun professionals said was not an AR -15 although the gvt and media will tell you otherwise- also had a pistol & allegedly obtained these guns legally...
All of this is bs to strip one of their guns...
So No & if the GOP led Congress is leaning this way instead of playing hardball w the issue of mental illness and stopping "gum free zones" and not hammering the point that criminals especially teen criminals have unlimited access to guns especially these "assault" weapons....well..they're as useless as Joe
I'm a no. No hypotheticals needed; the nation answered the question when we changed from a confederation of states to a constitutional republic in the 1780s.
You would never get 85% of the people in this country on the same page to have a civil conversation about weapons. There are 15% irredeemable stupid overall and then there's the ones that aren't necessarily stupid but they are unscrupulous and conniving and would never agree on anything that would level the playing field for everyone equally.
Not on board. Not even a little bit. We have a shit ton of gun laws already, often unenforced, and killing people is already wrong. Criminals don’t give a crap about the law.
We’d be sitting ducks.
The first thing our government does when they dick around to overthrow other governments is, ARM the PEOPLE.
There’s no such thing as a specific assault weapon. By the very term all weapons are frigging assault weapons. Weapons are meant to assault, be it a knife, gun, vehicle you get the idea.
Most gun deaths are caused by handguns. Does it matter what style of weapon you get shot with?
This is a no go. It’s a foot in the door to confiscate anything the government doesn’t think you should have.
Guns have existed in our society since day 1. Kids used to bring their rifles to school.
I agree with everything you said. That's why in a hypothetical world, if we got everyone (or almost everyone) to agree what was and more importantly what WASN'T a prohibited weapon, the entire brouhaha would be over. Most gun grabbers don't realize that they're arguing a moot point. Nobody on the street has a machine gun, or a bazooka, a gatling gun, etc because those are effectively restricted already. It would be our way of telling them to STFU.
Sounds legit, but no. As has been almost Blindingly obvious to anyone paying attention to anything, we can't give an inch, or they'll take 20 miles. Today's list would include 250 types of guns to be deemed "assault weapons", but then Tomorrow's list (literally already together...but would be "publicly" put together BY the gun grabbing lobby exactly thirty seconds After the "assault weapons" ban is signed) will include commercial versus residential guns. or Play guns versus Real guns. You start getting people on board with accepting Any "type" of weapons ban, you're just going to create more groups designed to Label every "type" of weapon. Black guns bad, blue guns OK. Long guns bad, short guns OK. You're making the basis for accepting a YES Ban, NO Ban on certain types that will Never Ever Ever stop. "Slippery Slope 101". Don't give them ANYTHING.
The general public is already prevented from owning "weapons of war". That's my point. We need to get a hard and fast agreement as to what the prohibited guns are so the Left can stop calling any gun on the AR platform an 'assault' weapon. Agree on what is and what isn't, and the conversation can be over, because those laws already exist.
Because if we had a list of weapons that 85% of the population agreed were/were not 'assault weapons', it would quickly be evident that laws banning such weapons are already on the books.
It doesn't matter ...eventually EVERYTHING would be banned
We already have universal background checks and red flag laws...
We need criminals to be incarcerated especially the violent adolescent and teen offenders, not the catch and release, (yep where I live we've had armed carjackers as young as 11 & 12). We need more parameters like back in the day to put people into mental hospitals & not just the current liberal self monitoring system...
So if we go by this theory then what's next words that are banned? Foods that are banned? What is the threshold?
Every time I hear "assault weapon" I ask whoever says it to define it.... you know tell me what one is. Apparently it's like pornography "I know it when I see it" but since I ask I am branded racist or something worse, which makes it impossible to ever really have this discussion..... but if we did... someone would have to include in the agreement - how long before the radical left gets to change it's collective mind and put my Red Ryder BB gun back on the banned list
Not on board. "Assault weapon" is a political term. "Assault weapon" in military terms is a firearm that has the ability to fire in a fully automatic manner.
These weapons are already banned in America. Hard stop. No further discussion needed.
Not about that, not about what the media call "high-capacity" magazines either.
A "standard" magazine for a "Modern Sporting Rifle" (which the anti's call an Assault weapon) is 30 rounds.
Any shooter who trains can replace a rifle magazine in approximately 2 seconds; this makes a discussion about magazine capacity limitations also a hard stop.
Both issues are simply false flags to scare/intimidate those who know nothing about the workings/operation of MSRs.
The goal is to gain a groundswell of support through fear mongering to the electorate.
There are NO needs of more gun laws; there is a need to arrest and prosecute to the fullest extent of the law all those who are found guilty of breaking same.
No deals, no parole, full sentences served.
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Amen!!!
This discussion will never end. Once “they” ban all of those so called assault weapons, a school shooter will show up with a 6 shot double action smith & Wesson with a bundle of speed loaders and kill a bunch of kids. Now a 6 shooter will be on the ban list. This is why we have to fight.
I don't disagree. That's historically how that works for everything, not just this. But if we could get it to what's described above, you could pose all that right to them, and maybe get an answer for it.
Maybe…this person used a phuqing Keltec pistol caliber carbine! The cheapest “assault not-an-assault” weapon out there. And then shot thru the door to get in. Mental illness will never stop…
2000000000%
Oh & let's not be distracted by all of this and "indictment watch" to ignore the tik toc bill that will have them tracking us more than ever!
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This isn’t just the “slippery slope” we’re talking about, this is pushing us off the 1,000 ft. cliff. I’d even say it’s by design. They want/need us unarmed but before that can really happen, they need us to capitulate and concede their talking points, as if they were both obviously valid, and in good faith. They’re neither of those things. You should know better than most, Glen… you can’t give an inch to commies or Marxists, or leftists, nor any other kind of nihilistic destructo-bots bc it’s all theatre. It’s an act, merely tactics to win the battle. They’re a lot like Islamists- nothing less than total domination or failing that, utter annihilation of their targets will do. And the puppet-masters have them dance/attack/react any way they need them to. So, no we don’t need more lists for them to place our arms or our names on to, for all the reasons they like to do that… we need to start pushing back and hard, on all the ground we’ve already lost. The 2nd Amendment is in practice the most important one, bc without it the others are all forfeit, sooner rather than later…
Well sai🎯🎯🎯👏
We already have universal background checks and lists
This recent perpetrator went through them ...so at one point was okay to own firearms.
There's so many lies being spun to get their way...it is all a game to the teflon dems.
I want to see what was in this alleged "manifesto" and who is backing it & aided this person?
Please understand this: schools are targeted specifically bc of kids bc they are not only precious lives, but most people on all sides love kids, want to protect kids...so they are the perfect pardon the pun, targets...my heart hurts for the grieving families and communities and for the kids who have to constantly worry if they're gonna be safe. Until armed security are in place, this won't stop no matter what category of weapon is banned. Glen, you had to see on Twit box the posts pushing violence towards people who oppose the agenda??? Who's going to protect them? Give an inch & they take 100 miles...
No
No
No
I saw sadly a mom who lost her child in Sandy Hook on an ad video on YouTube saying "an ar 15 killed my son" & I thought how sad that not only did she lose a child but that she's so easily duped to believe it was the "AR 15s fault!"
People are so stupidly caught up w buzzwords that the gvt, tv and media push....a 357 magnum could have been the gun used or a machete....banning objects isn't going to solve any of the current issues & the tranny that did the Nashville shooting had what many gun professionals said was not an AR -15 although the gvt and media will tell you otherwise- also had a pistol & allegedly obtained these guns legally...
All of this is bs to strip one of their guns...
So No & if the GOP led Congress is leaning this way instead of playing hardball w the issue of mental illness and stopping "gum free zones" and not hammering the point that criminals especially teen criminals have unlimited access to guns especially these "assault" weapons....well..they're as useless as Joe
Gun...
Sorry...
I'm a no. No hypotheticals needed; the nation answered the question when we changed from a confederation of states to a constitutional republic in the 1780s.
You would never get 85% of the people in this country on the same page to have a civil conversation about weapons. There are 15% irredeemable stupid overall and then there's the ones that aren't necessarily stupid but they are unscrupulous and conniving and would never agree on anything that would level the playing field for everyone equally.
A hard no...term limits first.
NO
Absolutely unequivocally NO
The CONSTITUTION (remember that document) states: Shall not be infringed
Period
You cannot decide that the “scary” guns have to go.
No, the 2nd. Amendment does not define what arms constitutes.
EXACTLY
Y’all have expressed my thoughts much more clearly than I would have, nothing to add other than nope.
Not on board. Not even a little bit. We have a shit ton of gun laws already, often unenforced, and killing people is already wrong. Criminals don’t give a crap about the law.
We’d be sitting ducks.
The first thing our government does when they dick around to overthrow other governments is, ARM the PEOPLE.
There’s no such thing as a specific assault weapon. By the very term all weapons are frigging assault weapons. Weapons are meant to assault, be it a knife, gun, vehicle you get the idea.
Most gun deaths are caused by handguns. Does it matter what style of weapon you get shot with?
This is a no go. It’s a foot in the door to confiscate anything the government doesn’t think you should have.
Guns have existed in our society since day 1. Kids used to bring their rifles to school.
This is not guns.
I agree with everything you said. That's why in a hypothetical world, if we got everyone (or almost everyone) to agree what was and more importantly what WASN'T a prohibited weapon, the entire brouhaha would be over. Most gun grabbers don't realize that they're arguing a moot point. Nobody on the street has a machine gun, or a bazooka, a gatling gun, etc because those are effectively restricted already. It would be our way of telling them to STFU.
This is why it’s in the Constitution. We can’t negotiate a surrendering of rights.
Sounds legit, but no. As has been almost Blindingly obvious to anyone paying attention to anything, we can't give an inch, or they'll take 20 miles. Today's list would include 250 types of guns to be deemed "assault weapons", but then Tomorrow's list (literally already together...but would be "publicly" put together BY the gun grabbing lobby exactly thirty seconds After the "assault weapons" ban is signed) will include commercial versus residential guns. or Play guns versus Real guns. You start getting people on board with accepting Any "type" of weapons ban, you're just going to create more groups designed to Label every "type" of weapon. Black guns bad, blue guns OK. Long guns bad, short guns OK. You're making the basis for accepting a YES Ban, NO Ban on certain types that will Never Ever Ever stop. "Slippery Slope 101". Don't give them ANYTHING.
The general public is already prevented from owning "weapons of war". That's my point. We need to get a hard and fast agreement as to what the prohibited guns are so the Left can stop calling any gun on the AR platform an 'assault' weapon. Agree on what is and what isn't, and the conversation can be over, because those laws already exist.
I'm going against the grain and saying "Yes".
Because if we had a list of weapons that 85% of the population agreed were/were not 'assault weapons', it would quickly be evident that laws banning such weapons are already on the books.
It doesn't matter ...eventually EVERYTHING would be banned
We already have universal background checks and red flag laws...
We need criminals to be incarcerated especially the violent adolescent and teen offenders, not the catch and release, (yep where I live we've had armed carjackers as young as 11 & 12). We need more parameters like back in the day to put people into mental hospitals & not just the current liberal self monitoring system...
So if we go by this theory then what's next words that are banned? Foods that are banned? What is the threshold?
Universities are already banning words....
Nope. Not until you can PROVE that more laws and bans on guns will stop any criminal from shooting ANYbody. Nope nope nope.
Every time I hear "assault weapon" I ask whoever says it to define it.... you know tell me what one is. Apparently it's like pornography "I know it when I see it" but since I ask I am branded racist or something worse, which makes it impossible to ever really have this discussion..... but if we did... someone would have to include in the agreement - how long before the radical left gets to change it's collective mind and put my Red Ryder BB gun back on the banned list